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on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform, 250, no tax increase for people below but taxes for people above. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls, including some republicans and yet our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff and make no mistake about it. if we go over, god forbid and i still don't think we have to, the american people are going to blame the republican party and they'll come right back and pass something. so i don't think the middle class is at risk. if we go over the cliff, our republicans colleagues will come back and go uh-oh and pass the bill we passed in senate already. >> can check hagel become secretary of defense if he's the republican's nominee? >> a lot of republicans have asked hard questions. i don't think he's going to get many republicans votes. i like chuck but his positions are really out of the mainstream and well to the left of the president. i think it would be a challenging nominations but the hearings will matter. chuck will have a chance to
on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform, 250, no tax increase for people below but taxes for people above. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls, including some republicans and yet our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff and make no mistake about it. if we go over, god forbid and i still don't think we have to, the american people are going to blame the republican party and...
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the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel the brunt of the fiscal cliff fallout. the dow fell on friday after the deal failed the night before. last week fitch warned it may downgrade the u.s. credit rating if congress cannot reach a deal. some lawmakers are angling for the best political outcountry. >> when i listen to the president, i think he's eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. implts joining me are off and o
the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel...
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the president ran on that platform, no tax increases pleau and taxes for people above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit poll, including some republicans and yet our republican colleagues by refuses to go along with revenues, are risking the fiscal cliff and make no mistake about it. if we go over, god forbid and i still don't think we have, to the american people are going to blame the republican party, and they will come right back and pass something, so i don't think the middle class is at risk because if we go over the cliff our republican colleagues will come back and say uh-oh and pass the bill we passed in the senate already. >> quick answer, could chuck hagel become the secretary of defense if he's the president's nominee? >> a lot of republicans are going to ask him hard questions, and i don't think he's going to get many republican votes. i like chuck and i didn't quite know all of his positions, outside the mainstream and well to the left of the president. the hearings will matter. >> would you support him? >> chuck will have a chanc
the president ran on that platform, no tax increases pleau and taxes for people above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit poll, including some republicans and yet our republican colleagues by refuses to go along with revenues, are risking the fiscal cliff and make no mistake about it. if we go over, god forbid and i still don't think we have, to the american people are going to blame the republican party, and they will come right back and pass something, so i don't...
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powers to oppose those taxes. grover norquist, who is, of course, a member of the board of the national rifle association. so the ceo of the nra took to a microphone in washington today to suggest a solution to the massacres of children in our schools and the solution is something he and his friends would not be willing to pay for. and he and his friends would attack any politician who attempted to pay for it. he reached for a variety of ways to make his point. >> we care about our money. so we protect our banks with armed guards. >> i don't know about you, but i cannot remember the last time i was in a bank that had an armed guard. all banks had them when i was a kid. and the armed guards couldn't stop bank robberies then. what stopped bank robberies in america was not armed guards. it was video cameras and automatic locking saves that cannot be opened no matter how much you scare a teller with a gun. i'm not just talking about small town banks that i go into. new york city banks do not have armed guards anymore.
powers to oppose those taxes. grover norquist, who is, of course, a member of the board of the national rifle association. so the ceo of the nra took to a microphone in washington today to suggest a solution to the massacres of children in our schools and the solution is something he and his friends would not be willing to pay for. and he and his friends would attack any politician who attempted to pay for it. he reached for a variety of ways to make his point. >> we care about our money....
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the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with that support t
the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for...
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no tax increases to people below but taxes for people above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: so again there is senator chuck schumer. so certainly still big topic of conversation despite the fact that everyone is now on recess. alex, yesterday we spoke to some folks who said this is really weighing on them as they enter the holiday season, as they do their christmas shopping, the uncertainty in washington kind of passing a cloud over their holiday. as for president obama, this is a working vacation, but he's clearly also relaxing quite a bit as well. he played a game of golf yesterday, went to dinner with the first lady and some friends. today, alex, partisan bickering will be put aside when many members of congress, the president, and the first lady attend a memorial service for the late senator daniel inoue held here. >> thank you so much. joining me now, national political reporter for politico david cant niece and associate editor for "roll call," david drucker. good
no tax increases to people below but taxes for people above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: so again there is senator chuck schumer. so certainly still big topic of conversation despite the fact that everyone is now on recess. alex, yesterday we spoke to some folks who said this is really weighing on them as they enter the holiday season, as they do their christmas shopping, the uncertainty in washington kind of...
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, they will have a tax cut. i think people have been thinking all along that really if push comes to shove, we'll do it in the new year and that seems to be what's developing. >> it creates an interesting dynamic, you'd have a new congress sworn in on january 3rd and ordinarily everyone goes home, get your picture taken, that's it. you're essentially swearing in a new congress and moving to the floor. that's something we haven't seen in quite a while, i'd say in the modern era. >> one of the odd things on the first day is elect a speaker. the majority party puts up -- this time it would be john boehner. the minority puts up their chosen leader, this time nancy pelosi. it's usually pro forma, but this time it has a real weight to it, because one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we're waiting for john boehner to be reelected to speaker of the house before they make a move, because only if 16 or 17 republicans don't vote for the guy, he could lose. they just want to wait. >> that's, i thi
, they will have a tax cut. i think people have been thinking all along that really if push comes to shove, we'll do it in the new year and that seems to be what's developing. >> it creates an interesting dynamic, you'd have a new congress sworn in on january 3rd and ordinarily everyone goes home, get your picture taken, that's it. you're essentially swearing in a new congress and moving to the floor. that's something we haven't seen in quite a while, i'd say in the modern era. >>...
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taxes shurnt go up. if they were to go up by law, conceivably they could come back in january and lower them and campaign on the fact that they lowers taxed. >> let's take a look at what speaker boehner said on friday. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the fundamental reform of our taxes will help get our economy moving faster and get more americans back to work. how we get there, god only knows. >> so the president says he's going to head back to washington after christmas to try and hammer out a deal before new year's. babe boehner said god only knows, god and ed o'keefe. how do they get there? >> for practical reasons there, are bills sitting in either chamber right now that the other chamber has passed, the house is telling the senate, pass our bill. the senate is telling the house pass our bill. either of those bills could be amended and sent back across the capitol, and make some changes, and send it back for final passage and sent send it to the president. can you get that done in
taxes shurnt go up. if they were to go up by law, conceivably they could come back in january and lower them and campaign on the fact that they lowers taxed. >> let's take a look at what speaker boehner said on friday. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the fundamental reform of our taxes will help get our economy moving faster and get more americans back to work. how we get there, god only knows. >> so the president says he's going to head back to washington...
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do a tax cut before it expires. we have said for weeks it would be a lot easier for republicans after the tax cuts to come and vote for the 98% below and say, hey, we took the best tax cut deal we can. >> jared, i think that many in the country, and i speak to folks every day for three hours a day. i think that many were hoping for so much more. republicans and democrats, who took a look at that year-long effort, simpson-bowles, and thought it had some attractive qualities because there was equal pay. you know, the military was getting cut, entitlements were being reformed, taxes were being altered. we're nowhere near any of that now. >> put me on that list. i maybe a hard core policy wonk but we're exactly where they are. i think compromise is the only way we get from where we are to where we need go, and what i've tried to stress and the president has been good on this lately as well. we actually have an economic recovery. it's not strong yet, but it's starting to gain some traction. and the idea that you would ga
do a tax cut before it expires. we have said for weeks it would be a lot easier for republicans after the tax cuts to come and vote for the 98% below and say, hey, we took the best tax cut deal we can. >> jared, i think that many in the country, and i speak to folks every day for three hours a day. i think that many were hoping for so much more. republicans and democrats, who took a look at that year-long effort, simpson-bowles, and thought it had some attractive qualities because there...
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the payroll tax holiday will expire on new year's day. that means most people will start paying more taxes in each paycheck. another 21 million americans would lose federal emergency unemployment benefits and those, let's remember, are people struggling the most right now. across the entire economy going over the cliff could slow the current growth rate of 3.1% and risk sparking another recession. joining us now to break it down from washington is cnbc's john harwood. thanks for being here. >> hey, ari. >> remind us where we were before plan b, how far apart were the last comprehensive offers between the president and negotiators? >> a few hundred billion dollars, which is a lot of money, sounds like a lot of money, but in the context of a ten-year budget deal when you have some very large programs that can be tweaked one way or another, is not that much. they were within shouting distance if the speaker could bring his caucus along to support the deal that he was promoting and getting close to striking with the president, but it's clear
the payroll tax holiday will expire on new year's day. that means most people will start paying more taxes in each paycheck. another 21 million americans would lose federal emergency unemployment benefits and those, let's remember, are people struggling the most right now. across the entire economy going over the cliff could slow the current growth rate of 3.1% and risk sparking another recession. joining us now to break it down from washington is cnbc's john harwood. thanks for being here....
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as fiscal talks drag into the 11th hour with $600 billion in tax heights and spending cuts due to kick in early next year. lawmakers will get back to the table later this week after house speaker john boehner's plan b fails to gain enough republican support for a vote. >>> still, the market has been resilient. despite friday's decline the s&p posted its best week in four and with just five trading sessions left in 2012, the dow has advanced 8% while the s&p 500 has jumped and the nasdaq has jumped 16%. >>> reports are due on pending new sale homes in the nation's 20 largest cities. >>> so are you still not sure what to get for the person who has everything? new retail numbers show footwear was the fifth most popular gift on shopper's list on black friday. a year ago shoes didn't make it into the top ten gifts for the season. >>> good news for hollywood. attendance by movie goers is up 5.5%. ticket revenue is expected to jump by 6% by the end of 2012 which would be the industry's biggest yearly increase in nearly a decade. >>> surprisingly strong sales on thanksgiving, look for some mcd
as fiscal talks drag into the 11th hour with $600 billion in tax heights and spending cuts due to kick in early next year. lawmakers will get back to the table later this week after house speaker john boehner's plan b fails to gain enough republican support for a vote. >>> still, the market has been resilient. despite friday's decline the s&p posted its best week in four and with just five trading sessions left in 2012, the dow has advanced 8% while the s&p 500 has jumped and...
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higher taxes for the wealthiest americans and sensible cuts in spending. that's where the country is right now. last night republicans destroyed their own party because they refused to agree with the american people. but, of course, they think if they do something that might align themselves with president obama, it's going to be their political death knell. they have it all screwed up. it's time to hand the keys back to the adults. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, do republicans want the country to go over the fiscal cliff? text "a" for yes. text "b" for no to 622639. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i'm joined tonight by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. congresswoman, great to have you with us tonight. >> thanks. >> and the chair of the dnc. this has been a real circus the last 24 hours. the president today, congresswoman, went back to the basics. he basically said, let's just all get along on the 98%. >> right. >> let's just vote on that. w
higher taxes for the wealthiest americans and sensible cuts in spending. that's where the country is right now. last night republicans destroyed their own party because they refused to agree with the american people. but, of course, they think if they do something that might align themselves with president obama, it's going to be their political death knell. they have it all screwed up. it's time to hand the keys back to the adults. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think....
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no taxes for people below but taxes above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: there is also a lot of skepticism among lawmakers. senator joe lieberman said he thinks the country is closer than ever to going over the cliff. the last time interestingly that lawmakers worked between the christmas holiday and new year's was in 1996. that is, of course, when they were dealing with the government shut down. politics will be put aside this morning. the president, a lot of members of congress will be attending that memorial service for the late senator. >> kristen welker in hawaii. we will check in with you again later in our show. >>> from the fiscal cliff to gun control nra executive vice president was on "meet the press" this morning and here is part of what he said. >> i don't understand why you can't just for a minute imagine that when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into sandy hook school that if a good guy with a gun would have been there he mi
no taxes for people below but taxes above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: there is also a lot of skepticism among lawmakers. senator joe lieberman said he thinks the country is closer than ever to going over the cliff. the last time interestingly that lawmakers worked between the christmas holiday and new year's was in 1996. that is, of course, when they were dealing with the government shut down. politics will be...
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hasn't paid any taxes for ten years. let me him that he has paid taxes, because he hasn't. >> now reid said he got his information from a former bane investor. without any further explanation, he was awarded the maximum number of pinocchios. also u.n. ambassador susan rice has come to terms with the circumstances that led her to take her own name of of the running for secretary of state. her opening line, quite, my talking points for this evening have been provided to me and fully cleared by the intelligence community. how could this possibly go wrong? believe it or not, things took a turn for the palin later on in her speech. quote, day after day, i engage in highly substantive, highly technical negotiations with my colleagues here at the u.n. like the russians. as a matter of fact, i can see the russian mission from my house. >>> finally, did you think the holidays would come and go without seeing president obama singing "deck the halls." not so. he is back in the game. ♪ deck the halls with bows of holly ♪ ♪ fa-
hasn't paid any taxes for ten years. let me him that he has paid taxes, because he hasn't. >> now reid said he got his information from a former bane investor. without any further explanation, he was awarded the maximum number of pinocchios. also u.n. ambassador susan rice has come to terms with the circumstances that led her to take her own name of of the running for secretary of state. her opening line, quite, my talking points for this evening have been provided to me and fully cleared...
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take him out on his taxes. take him out on his governor as massachusetts but, more importantly, paint him as a figure of the past. someone who doesn't understand your problems, that he's someone from a bygone america who doesn't have anything to say to the voters who are going to make up our winning margin, but just to wrap that big thing back around, the 47%, romney did more -- all that have damage had been done by how obama team painted him. and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in florida and the next morning go on a cable news show and say something equally shocking. >> i'm not co
take him out on his taxes. take him out on his governor as massachusetts but, more importantly, paint him as a figure of the past. someone who doesn't understand your problems, that he's someone from a bygone america who doesn't have anything to say to the voters who are going to make up our winning margin, but just to wrap that big thing back around, the 47%, romney did more -- all that have damage had been done by how obama team painted him. and then romney came out -- >> and then...
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i call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. >> where was obama tonight? he went in there disarmed? what was romney doing? he was winning! i'll get your chance in a moment. i'm still speaking. >> i don't look at my pension. it's not as big as yours. >> you said the day after in the rose garden it was an act of terror. >> let me -- >> he did call it an act of terror. >> i brought us whole binders full of women. >> well, governor, we still have fewer horses and bayonets. you do the same things we do, but say them louder, and somehow that would make a difference. >> all tied up. our brand-new numbers on the race for president. >> here's old moderate mitt. you been, boy? i missed you these last few years. >> if you can't change washington from inside the washington, then let's get you the plane ticket back to chicago you've earned. >> don't move over. voting's the best revenge. >> revenge? instead, i ask the american people to vote for love of country. >> it's election day, america. >> today
i call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. >> where was obama tonight? he went in there disarmed? what was romney doing? he was winning! i'll get your chance in a moment. i'm still speaking. >> i don't look at my pension. it's not as big as yours. >> you said the day after in the rose garden it was an act of terror. >> let me -- >> he did call it an act of terror. >> i...
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let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment benefits for more than two million americans. people who cannot wait a couple of months to get the money back and don't have the safety net. this is a very serious situation for some americans. on this show we have a slope and not a cliff. for some it is an immediate pain cliff situation. >> we should differentiate between the things that are really a cliff. unemployment and income taxes and the other things like the spending cuts draw out over a year. the sequester and other things. you wouldn't have to worry about that. those things can be fixed. the democrats don't have a sense of urge
let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment...
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we don't want to raise taxes on anybody. we don't want to raise taxes on millionaires. we don't want the raise taxes on people who make $50,000 or $20,000. that's a core principle because the problem with the budget is spending. >> you have the final word. i've got run, unfortunately. but think thank you, joy reid. >> thank you, stephen moore. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> when we return, let me finish "zero dark thirty," the great movie about getting bin laden, and the difference one person can make. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> last night here in new york city i saw the movie "zero dark thirty." the film gets its wide release on january 11. i thought it lived up to the hype. the catherine bigelow movie about the takedown of bin laden was spell binding, epithet conclusion, even though you know how it ends. but much of the advance attention has been focused on how the movie begins, the graphic depiction of an al qaeda prisoner being harshly interrogated. earlier this week three u.s. senators took issue with that sequence. they fear that ameri
we don't want to raise taxes on anybody. we don't want to raise taxes on millionaires. we don't want the raise taxes on people who make $50,000 or $20,000. that's a core principle because the problem with the budget is spending. >> you have the final word. i've got run, unfortunately. but think thank you, joy reid. >> thank you, stephen moore. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> when we return, let me finish "zero dark thirty," the great movie about getting...
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large deal, he is at this point urgenting members of congress to work together to at least prevent taxes from going up. he had has acknowledged that there's not enough time to get a large sweeping deal done. he said yesterday, members of congress should take the days of vacation to cool offer, and gain perspective and come back ready to work to get something done. will it happen? we will have to wait and see, the clock is ticking on these negotiations. richard? >> joining us now is mark murray, he is the senior political editor. mark, when we look at the after plan-b failed, what are some of the scenarios that you worked out as we look forward to the limited days ahead of us. the first is what was laid out, it's a quick fix that you end up having. it would originate in the senate and it was no surprise that harry reid was meeting yesterday, it would be a short-term fix to prevent the fiscal cliff. the other is the grand bargain, and time is running out, it's unlikely you will get something like that, however, there's a chance that john boehner and republicans say, mr. president, the last
large deal, he is at this point urgenting members of congress to work together to at least prevent taxes from going up. he had has acknowledged that there's not enough time to get a large sweeping deal done. he said yesterday, members of congress should take the days of vacation to cool offer, and gain perspective and come back ready to work to get something done. will it happen? we will have to wait and see, the clock is ticking on these negotiations. richard? >> joining us now is mark...
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we don't want to raise taxes on anybody. we don't want to raise taxes on millionaires. we don't want the raise taxes on people who make $50,000 or $20,000. that's a core principle because the problem with the budget is spending. >> you have the final word. i've got run, unfortunately. but think thank you, joy reid. >> thank you, stephen moore. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> when we return, let me finish "zero dark thirty," the great movie about getting bin laden, and the difference one person can make. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day pr
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if they're not going to agree to a tax -- holding taxes down for those under a million dollars, they're definitely not dealing with $400,000 so, therefore, let's go back to the $250,000. i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about scoring political points and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make -- used car sales men look good. that's the only group below us. we have to get our act together and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. >> yeah. the perception -- go ahead, please, congressman. looking at the can kicked down th
if they're not going to agree to a tax -- holding taxes down for those under a million dollars, they're definitely not dealing with $400,000 so, therefore, let's go back to the $250,000. i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the...
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people ma taxes will go up for everyone. you can see the numbers here, 40 to 65,000, it's $2,000 of a tax hike. so as constituents, if they were to call you and they say why is this happening, what are you going to say to them? >> well, first of all, that's not going to happen. we may go off the cliff on january 1st but we would correct that very quickly thereafter. what i'm telling them is the reason it's happening is we have idey ideologues in the house of representatives who don't believe there's a fiscal side of the budget. they're focused on cutting spending in unprecedented ways and they don't believe in taxes essentially. on the budget committee we've seen this day in and day out. these members of the house, and i don't know how many of them there are, but at least 50 or 60 basically have established a record in which ne hathey have firmly embraced the concept of not raising taxes and serious cuts that they put themselves in a box and they really can't get out and that's really tying up everything. because we can do a
people ma taxes will go up for everyone. you can see the numbers here, 40 to 65,000, it's $2,000 of a tax hike. so as constituents, if they were to call you and they say why is this happening, what are you going to say to them? >> well, first of all, that's not going to happen. we may go off the cliff on january 1st but we would correct that very quickly thereafter. what i'm telling them is the reason it's happening is we have idey ideologues in the house of representatives who don't...
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the bush tax cuts will expire. everyone, even republicans know if we go over the cliff, the bush tax cuts will be restored for at least 98% of americans. payroll taxes will go back to normal in 2013. the payroll tax cut was always intended to be a temporary measure. the alternative minimum tax would hit middle class americans. year after year, this has been fixed by lawmakers and like everything else notice fiscal cliff, it can be done retroactively. the harshest effects of spending cuts could be modified in the first month or two of 2013. in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get y
the bush tax cuts will expire. everyone, even republicans know if we go over the cliff, the bush tax cuts will be restored for at least 98% of americans. payroll taxes will go back to normal in 2013. the payroll tax cut was always intended to be a temporary measure. the alternative minimum tax would hit middle class americans. year after year, this has been fixed by lawmakers and like everything else notice fiscal cliff, it can be done retroactively. the harshest effects of spending cuts could...
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there's a whole host of other things, $2,200, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, all of those set to go up on americans and what is expected to be a disaster for every household. if for some reason we go over the cliff and don't do something at the beginning of january and go back retroactively and adjust the rates, krystal. >> yeah. >> peter, you said something a minute ago and significant and if there's going to be a deal, that ends up leaving some taxpayers, wealthy taxpayers, paying higher than now, it's next year for republicans to sign off on it saying it's a tax cut in some form and gives democrats to wait until next week to strike a deal and wonder besides getting what they want or most of what they want on taxes if they wait until next week, is there anything else they can get in a deal in terms of we are talking about unemployment insurance, in terms of, you know, investment income and the tax rates and stimulus and looking for more stimulus and just be a tax cut deal next week or more components to it? >> reporter: it's a good question. they're having enough struggles w
there's a whole host of other things, $2,200, income tax, estate tax, dividend tax, all of those set to go up on americans and what is expected to be a disaster for every household. if for some reason we go over the cliff and don't do something at the beginning of january and go back retroactively and adjust the rates, krystal. >> yeah. >> peter, you said something a minute ago and significant and if there's going to be a deal, that ends up leaving some taxpayers, wealthy taxpayers,...
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cuts or tax breaks. nbc's peter alexander, thank you. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen, and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death.
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let's listen to him first. >> i disagree with john boehner caving on taxes. and we'll give you $1 trillion in tax revenue and we'll raise it for a year and take a lever on the hand of the republicans and he did that without the support of the conference, as we found out. >> i'm interested in terms of what you're hearing the number of votes he came up short. he came up short 21 in a bill related to softening the sequester that was done right before the plan b vote when the plan b vote was supposed to happen here. >> the numbers i've heard has been about 24. >> 24. >> already he could lose about 20 people going into that vote given the republican, the majority and the size of that, but you end up mentioning congressman huelskamp. he tried to punish members like tim huelskamp and one skill that a sometimes a speaker has and we saw this with nancy pelosi and we saw this in 2009 and 2010 is actually fear. they don't fear congressman boehner. they don't fear him at all if they go break their own way and that is one of the reasons why you end up having people who se
let's listen to him first. >> i disagree with john boehner caving on taxes. and we'll give you $1 trillion in tax revenue and we'll raise it for a year and take a lever on the hand of the republicans and he did that without the support of the conference, as we found out. >> i'm interested in terms of what you're hearing the number of votes he came up short. he came up short 21 in a bill related to softening the sequester that was done right before the plan b vote when the plan b...
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it's not just the sequester, all the tax cuts expire. >> that includes the payroll tax cut. it helped people of lower incomes. there's a lot more on the table. >> the payroll tax cuts need to be reimposed. that is the opening to go after social security for example. but, i always thought all the bush tax cuts should expire. i think everybody should have skin in the game. i think you should have a progressive tax code. if you want to deal with the deficit problem, the two things you have to have are people working and you have to have people paying taxes. you cannot cut your way out of our deficit problem. >> quick exit question. this is a yes or no. do we get a better deal if we go over the cliff? yes or no. >> i can't do yes or no. i'm sorry. >> we have little time. >> a cliff is terrible. if there is a terrible deal proposed, then i think it's better to go over the cliff. >> take it to the brink, obama. >> don't go over the cliff. no. no. >> absolute lie not. >> we have a table divided. >>> negotiations about policy ors personalities. [ male announcer ] when it comes to th
it's not just the sequester, all the tax cuts expire. >> that includes the payroll tax cut. it helped people of lower incomes. there's a lot more on the table. >> the payroll tax cuts need to be reimposed. that is the opening to go after social security for example. but, i always thought all the bush tax cuts should expire. i think everybody should have skin in the game. i think you should have a progressive tax code. if you want to deal with the deficit problem, the two things you...
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and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show republicans really backing down for their no-tax position and allowing a rate increase of some kind, that said, i'm still very skeptical that they can get to a point that can get all sides agreeing to something and it's something that the republicans can agree to in the house. you know, there's a very, very -- a slim chance of that happening, but if anything happens, it's going to be a small scope deal and not the big about deal that they have been talking about for a long time. >> colin, are you at all surprised that john boehner has been sidelined at th
and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show...
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people making 40 to $65,000 get a $2,000 tax hike and anyone, would see a $14,000 tax bump. where else would americans see the sting? talk to me about medicare and unemployment benefits. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things that would be right away in a negative impact would be unemployment benefits and 2 million americans would see the unemployment benefits and that would hurt the economy and that would hurt these people that are relying on this and the unemployment insurance has been seen as economic stimulus to get hands into the money of people who need it and they were things that actually get spread over the course of 2013 if there is no fix that is actually done and it is possible for congress to go back and fix things and talking about the increase of tax rates and there will also be spending cuts to gover
people making 40 to $65,000 get a $2,000 tax hike and anyone, would see a $14,000 tax bump. where else would americans see the sting? talk to me about medicare and unemployment benefits. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things...
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at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a vote by which the only way that vote would get over the legislative would be with a majority of democrats. he doesn't want to do that to preserve his job. once we go over the cliff, we can possibly do more of a bungee jump if we reverse the damage quickly. in that vote republicans don't have to vote for a tax increase, which to me is absolutely ridiculous in terms of serving the economy and the country, but i guess the politics makes sense to some of these guys. >>> jared bernstein, thank you. the storm is coming. look at that storm, the symptom is coming behind you. >> you weren't talking about a fiscal
at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a...
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, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the house it has a much better chance of attracting republican support. if mitch mcconnell aligns republicans and tells everyone to oppose it in the senate republican conference, the chances of it succeeding in the house are pretty low. >> sam, is this the end of the road for grover norquist and his pledge? >> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other
, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the...
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we're going to have the votes to pass both the tax -- permanent tax relief bill, as well as the spending reduction account. >> i am not convinced at all that when the bill passes the house today, that it will die in the senate. >> you know, the bill never got to the senate because it never passed the house because it turns out you guys didn't have the votes to pass it in the house. and the most important thing here is that you thought you did. you counted wrong. you thought you had the votes and you didn't. you did not know that you were going to lose that vote on your own legislation because of the votes of your own side. you didn't know you were going to lose it until you started to lose it, and then you had to shut everything down at emergency speed. whether you prefer the policies of john boehner or you prefer the policies of nancy pelosi, if you just compare them, technocratically speaking, nancy pelosi never lost a vote. she never once got so confused and lost control of the group she was supposed to be leading, she never got caught out saying something was going to pass. she never
we're going to have the votes to pass both the tax -- permanent tax relief bill, as well as the spending reduction account. >> i am not convinced at all that when the bill passes the house today, that it will die in the senate. >> you know, the bill never got to the senate because it never passed the house because it turns out you guys didn't have the votes to pass it in the house. and the most important thing here is that you thought you did. you counted wrong. you thought you had...
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tacking them, taxing carbon would help give cues to drive investment into clean energy. another way -- >> they are very skeptical about clean energy. you also have to realize it's a terrible investment for the past decade. this is not an easy problem. >> one of the problems is lack of markets. the government could do a lot to fix that by consuming clean energy and vehicles. the federal government is in the u.s. is the single largest consumer of clean energy. if you add state and federal spending, if you look at the percentage of the gdp, the public sector, it's over 1%. >> and what helps is lots of natural gas in the united states. so there's even an alignment with what i think are going to be the economic interests. >> so the problem is that will probably make the unemployment problem worse and that lowers the return to investing in a heavy industry, that lowers the average real interest rate and the problem that they face is that the real interest rate is negative and that makes it difficult for us to achieve full employment. so you're making that problem harder by tax
tacking them, taxing carbon would help give cues to drive investment into clean energy. another way -- >> they are very skeptical about clean energy. you also have to realize it's a terrible investment for the past decade. this is not an easy problem. >> one of the problems is lack of markets. the government could do a lot to fix that by consuming clean energy and vehicles. the federal government is in the u.s. is the single largest consumer of clean energy. if you add state and...
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is it on taxes? >> well, alex, i think that the question -- you know, early on we saw maybe -- you know, it would be on the tax rate. republicans don't want to raise taxes at all but would be willing to go to a hire rate but not as high as the president wants. maybe the threshold. president wants anybody making under $250,000 -- over $250,000 with a tax hike. republicans were at a million. somewhere in the middle, $400,000, $500. right now it does not seem -- republican majority in the house and so in terms of any kind of, you know, common ground, it doesn't seem like there is a lot left. it may be going over the cliff and coming back with a tax cut. >> here's what's happening as a result of all of this. we have the stock market which closed down nearly 121 points on friday. no agreement in sight. if we head over this cliff, the average middle class family will pay $2400 a year more in taxes. 3.5 million jobs could be lost. when we see these manifestations, someone is going to pay a political price f
is it on taxes? >> well, alex, i think that the question -- you know, early on we saw maybe -- you know, it would be on the tax rate. republicans don't want to raise taxes at all but would be willing to go to a hire rate but not as high as the president wants. maybe the threshold. president wants anybody making under $250,000 -- over $250,000 with a tax hike. republicans were at a million. somewhere in the middle, $400,000, $500. right now it does not seem -- republican majority in the...
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our state's pay high taxes. when were there when katrina victims, that's beside the point of red or blue states. you do what you have to do. that's what needs to be done right now. not only is the budget critical right now, sandy's critical and a lot of other thing that is need to be done there. amt. >> all right. >> look at the folks -- >> congressman. >> don't have a payroll. >> congressman, i have to cut you off. >> okay. >> but thank you so much. >> thank you, craig. >> keep us posted on the progress if there is any. >>> we have developing news now from the senate. just moments ago, vice president joe biden swore in hawaii's lieutenant governor brian schatz as the state's new u.s. snr. >> do you swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of
our state's pay high taxes. when were there when katrina victims, that's beside the point of red or blue states. you do what you have to do. that's what needs to be done right now. not only is the budget critical right now, sandy's critical and a lot of other thing that is need to be done there. amt. >> all right. >> look at the folks -- >> congressman. >> don't have a payroll. >> congressman, i have to cut you off. >> okay. >> but thank you so much....
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tax increases and other spending cuts will fall into place over time. but not with unemployment insurance. unemployment americans who rely on federal aid will be cut off on january 1st, 2013. however, there is some good news on the unemployment front. the four-week average of job claims dropped to roughly 356,000. it's the lowest level since march 2008. but unfortunately, the national unemployment rate is still 7.7%. and if republicans in congress fail to accuracy millions of unemployed americans will be off to a very rough start for the new year. for more on this let's turn to the reverend dr. haines iii, senior pastor at friendship west baptist church. dr. haines, welcome to the show. >> thank you, professor dyson. >> isn't it ironic, dr. haines, through this entire debate the focus has been on the wealthiest americans paying more taxes, not people who will lose unemployment benefits come january 1st? you're the pastor of a huge church in dallas that talks about poverty and social injustice. what's your reaction to this? >> well, not only is it ironic
tax increases and other spending cuts will fall into place over time. but not with unemployment insurance. unemployment americans who rely on federal aid will be cut off on january 1st, 2013. however, there is some good news on the unemployment front. the four-week average of job claims dropped to roughly 356,000. it's the lowest level since march 2008. but unfortunately, the national unemployment rate is still 7.7%. and if republicans in congress fail to accuracy millions of unemployed...